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bluepennylady
(Carpal Tunnel)
06/24/13 06:52 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: auctions1329]  

HI

Not quite sure of what you mean so if I am not answering correctly, I am sorry.

I still use pair.com as my image hosting and email provider.

We use Aw2K for all communications to our buyers. Even Amazon.com transactions. We just made custom email templates that have all the URL links etc removed because Amazon doesn't allow those. Each profile has default email templates for each step of the process.

I hope that is what you meant. If not, well let me know and I will try again.

Judy/blue

Judy Oglesby
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auctions1329
(journeyman)
06/26/13 03:35 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: bluepennylady]  

Yes, I think you answered me correctly. My web host is Hostgator, but I have the e-mail going through my DSL provider, Frontier. So can I use Hostgator some how to provide me with SSL e-mail? Maybe I need to contact them to help me through this situation. I hate to have to change everything.

Thanks for your help, Judy. Hope you are doing well on Amazon. I see that you have FBA. Good luck!

Wilma

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auctions1329
(journeyman)
07/29/13 09:40 AM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: auctions1329]  

What is the best hosting website to use. Right now I switched to Yahoo and I think I am sorry that I did. What company do you recommend? and what do you think of BlueHost? I had Hostgator and they put me on another server that was so slow that I left. Thanks!

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Same_Old_Sue
(stranger )
10/08/14 05:20 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: onlynancydrew]  

See below for a copy of what I posted in another thread a couple days ago.

Update:
I contacted Pair Networks by phone and email. They have no help for this problem (suggested some email settings, but nothing worked; the log-in fails). They are aware of the fact that AW tech support is unwilling to alter the program to enable SSL. They suggested Stunnel.

I downloaded/installed Stunnel, and I cannot even figure out what component of the program I'm supposed to open. I've looked at a few tutorials online, but they are Greek to me. I need help!

Is anyone still reading this Forum?? Can anyone post clear instructions for dummies like me on how to set up Stunnel so I can continue using my Pair.com email addresses? Pleeeeeze!

Copy of post:

For 13 years, I've used Pair Networks for email forwarding, image hosting, and domain parking (my email addresses for ebay and etsy are based on that domain name).

Yesterday, Pair announced they will soon require SSL authentication. Here's Thom's reply to my inquiry:

"Unfortunately, the email system in AW2000 does not support SSL/TLS.
If you have any questions, please let me know."

Short and to the point, as always.

I'm disappointed that AW2k tech support seems uninterested in providing a solution to this new wrinkle. I've been happy with the reliability of Pair Networks, and I don't want to change my email addresses.

In June 2013, Barbara (onlynancydrew) came up with a workaround that involved a program called Stunnel:

"Download stunnel (http://www.stunnel.org/downloads.html) and install it. Then it will need to be edited (http://blog.thestateofme.com/2012/04/16/howto-get-pop3-from-gmail-without-ssl/) and, of course, "run" it.

In AW2000, your email account will need to be set up using POP3 host name: localhost and port 110 and SMTP host name: localhost and port 25
Your username and password will be those that you use for Gmail."

All my personal email accounts (dslextreme.com) use Gmail servers, but the addresses I use for online sales have nothing to do with Gmail (or is that fact irrelevant?). Figuring out how to continue to use Pair.com for email hosting/forwarding sounds daunting if not impossible to my old brain, so I hope some of you wizards here will provide a little guidance.

Thanks,
Sue
[mostly gave up on eBay]
SecretWorkshop on Etsy

Sue
[mostly gave up on eBay]
SecretWorkshop on Etsy

ehlmann
(stranger )
10/18/14 10:04 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: Same_Old_Sue]  

So all of us who use PAIR networks are working quickly because our latest notice said it is going to SSL on 10/21/14 ready or not here it comes! I worked with the last post and got my email on AW2K to work with SSL GMAIL so far. I don't know about others but handholding works best for me so I will share this by handholding.

HOW I GOT SSL EMAIL TO WORK IN AW2K ON MY SUMMER VACATION :)

First I went onto gmail online and found "SETTINGS" on the far right under the gear looking item. In the middle is "FORWARDING and POP/IMAP" settings. You have to ENABLE POP then I selected to DELETE GMAILS COPYl after downloaded. I disabled imap. SAVE CHANGES

I downloaded stunnel 5.06 from stunnel.org Then I installed it. During the install - at your c-prompt it has you enter info to create a "certificate" It is kind of to identify you. Mine was: US, Texas, Azle, etc... When done installing then you run it - or start it. It automatically goes onto your taskbar notification on the bottom right of windows. If you right click on that icon then you can see configuration etc. The latest version of stunnel 5.06 has gmail as a preset example. I left it alone. Here is what it had:

Example SSL server mode services

;[pop3s]
;accept = 995
;connect = 110

;[ssmtp]
;accept = 465
;connect = 25

Example SSL client mode services

[gmail-pop3]
client = yes
accept = 127.0.0.1:110
connect = pop.gmail.com:995

[gmail-smtp]
client = yes
accept = 127.0.0.1:25
connect = smtp.gmail.com:465

It also has IMAP settings but I chose to use pop3 for now.

In Auction wizard I opened FILE, EMAIL ACCOUNTS, and created a new one to match my gmail account. I put 127.0.0.1 for pop3 with port 110 and smtp 127.0.0.1 with port 25 The SMTP AUTHENTICATION was checked and also USE POP3 USERNAME AND PASSWORD FOR SMTP was also checked.

The final key in getting it to work was to find on google the final key. You must be logged in and here is a link to it:
https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps
You are enabling less secure apps to work. THAT final move was what got it all to work. I am hoping that I can get this to work on pair and will report success or failure ASAP.

I understand that email access is one small part of AW2K and to change this portion would probably require the whole thing to be reworked and unstable. I am grateful for the great program that it is and that is it for me!



Same_Old_Sue
(stranger )
10/20/14 01:43 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: ehlmann]  

Wow. Fantastic info. Thanks for posting it.

I'm still clueless about the possible nexus between gmail & Pair accounts, but I'll stay tuned for your update after you work out the settings for Pair.

Thanks again for a very clear post on this topic.


Sue
[mostly gave up on eBay]
SecretWorkshop on Etsy

bluepennylady
(Carpal Tunnel)
10/22/14 09:56 AM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: Same_Old_Sue]  

Hi

Thank you for posting the information.

pair.com will move you to a newer server that will upgrade much later down the road. But they will all update to SSL at some point. I have spoken with a supervisor at pair.com concerning requiring all members to move to SSL and expressed my concern. Not all clients handle SSL contrary to what all say. There are other hosting sites that will continue to support POP3/SMTP.

I am glad you posted the Stunnel configuration. I have not had time to eve work on it the last two weeks. That is greatly appreciated.



Judy Oglesby
Judy/blue
bluepennylady

Visit my eBay store!
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Visit our website too!
http://www.pennyworthsales.com

Visit me at Bonanza!
http://www.bonanza.com/bluepennylady

http://twitter.com/bluepennylady

http://bluepennyladyblog.blogspot.com

ehlmann
(stranger )
11/19/14 12:59 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: bluepennylady]  

Yet another delay from pair so I am unable to determine exactly how well my fix really is. Here are their dates for changes to SSL on servers:

http://www.pair.com/support/notices/email-encryption.html



ehlmann
(stranger )
06/14/15 12:15 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: ehlmann]  

OK EVERYBODY! Here it is- it obviously works because in a reply about another issue a tech told me:
"You are connecting to your mailboxes using the POP3 protocol and
authenticating using SSL. All of our mail servers require this SSL
authentication."

When I disputed him he actually rechecked and confirmed the last of the servers are now requiring SSL. The final changes apparently went through in December 2014 and I am doing well so the STUNNEL configuration I posted works for SSL. The ONLY drawback? I have to handstart STUNNEL to run each time my machine is restarted. It is very worth this tiny extra effort to be able to stay with Pair.com The same basic service I get for $5.95 a month is over $25 with Godaddy for example. YEY STUNNEL!



ehlmann
(stranger )
06/14/15 12:53 PM
Re: SSL E-mail new [re: Same_Old_Sue]  

I am SO sorry that I didn't see or understand you were confused about me "testing" with gmail. The problem I had in making sure STUNNEL worked was that (at that time) Pair was still allowing unsecured email for me. I was unable to test if it worked since it worked anyway. I used gmail to test the settings. Now that I am DEAD sure my pair server has finally starting requiring SSL I am able to say the STUNNEL work-around functions I posted flawlessly.




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