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tictictic_OnEbay
(enthusiast)
01/08/08 01:03 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: bluepennylady]  

I finally got a reply to my objections to having my auction cancelled. Here's an expurgated version of their email:

..............................................................................
I have had a chance to review the listing that you posted and have
confirmed that it was correctly removed from the site.

Your listing contained the following description:

"Title of movie is [Noun & Noun - Noun]
(you be the judge of what the "story"
is about). Large-breasted Marilyn Monroe
look-alike (dark hair; maybe it's really her)
removes her clothing and rolls an apple
around on her body in the first few yards,
but I have not viewed the whole movie, so I
do not know how hard-core it might be."

This is an indication that the film may be pornographic in nature. In
order to sell this film you must state what kind of film it is and state
the rating [there is no rating; it's from the '40s or '50s]. If it happens to be pornographic you must list it in the
Mature Audiences section of the site.
..............................................................................

"If it happens to be pornographic..." I like that phrase! What about if it happens NOT to be pornographic? I don't have the equipment to watch this film, and I'm not going to run the whole thing over a lightbox, peering at every frame with a magnifying glass! And even if I had a projector, I'm not sure I'd want to watch this movie. Yeah, here's Grandma watching a stag movie in her kitchen. Sigh......

When it was listed in the regular movies category, I had an immediate four bids from four different people and several watchers and about 40 hits the first night. Listed in the MA category, it's gotten 19 hits in two days, no bids, no watchers. Searching on title & description, all categories, trying several of the words in the title, it does not show up in results no matter what I try. Do MA items ever show up in search results?? And of course, anyone just clicking to view my other auctions doesn't see it -- it's not on the list. EBay certainly doesn't make it easy for us downtrodden porn merchants.

Sue

P.S. One lesson learned is that for any auction you think might get cancelled, keep a record of your bidders. At least you can attempt to contact them to inform them of a relisting. I had done one AW update after the first bid was placed, so that was the only bidder I was able to contact.



bluepennylady
(Pooh-Bah)
01/08/08 01:15 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: tictictic_OnEbay]  

Sue,

Break out the popcorn and invite all the grandma's in the neighborhood over to watch a film made in the 40's and 50's. The stuff from back then couldn't be as bad as what we have today. Or I would not think so anyway.

Well at least you know what they want. Now if it is obtainable is another question entirely. And I don't have a problem one believing the search didn't pull it up. I am convinced there are simply some items in some categories that do not appear in a search no matter what search criteria values you enter into the search field.

Let us know how you manage to get the thing listed. It is almost a quest now!

Judy/blue

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tictictic_OnEbay
(enthusiast)
01/08/08 01:39 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: bluepennylady]  

Hilarious image, me and the other grandmas having a stag party (doe party??).

I did get it relisted, but it's in the MA category. That's what I was saying about how little notice it's getting. Bidders have to make a deliberate effort to search there, apparently. If you are looking for tame movies with risque themes, you may never venture "behind the dark curtain at the back of the store."

Sue



bluepennylady
(Pooh-Bah)
01/08/08 01:54 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: tictictic_OnEbay]  

Sue,

You know, I wonder if the movie will show up in the search after a couple of days. It might be interesting to check and see if it does. It might be like some collectibles and coins and such,,,, those do not pull up in a search sometimes for 36 to 48 hours. It seems they are sort of in a holding pattern until the listing is confirmed to be true and accurate.

Try checking later on this evening and tomorrow and let us all know if it show up then.



Judy/blue

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AquilaStamps
(addict)
01/08/08 06:26 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: tictictic_OnEbay]  

Sue:
I noticed that it does show up in the search results if you search under your username. It shows up as ADULT ITEM user verification required.

Bet your "doe party" will be a hoot. Just remember to not all end up behind bars. It prolly would be a good idea if some of the grandmas park down the street a ways and walk to your house. Don't want all the grandma cars in your driveway and in the yard as well as pulled up at the curb. I can see the formation of a new club coming along - Sue's Movie Picks sort of like Oprah's Book recommendations. Then when you list them on eBay you could give the movie so many "Grandma Stars". Those stars will make as much sense as the new buyer star ratings they are now giving out to sellers. Oh well it's a thought anyway.

Garry



tictictic_OnEbay
(enthusiast)
01/13/08 02:11 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: bluepennylady]  

I finally got a reply from eBay Customer Support (I shortened the actual description quote and edited out the real names):
------------------------------------------------------------------
Your listing contained the following description:

"Title of movie is [suggestive title, no profanity]...Large-breasted [famous actress] look-alike (...maybe it's really her) removes her clothing and rolls an apple around...have not viewed the whole movie...do not know how hard-core it might be."

This is an indication that the film may be pornographic in nature. In
order to sell this film you must state what kind of film it is and state
the rating. If it happens to be pornographic you must list it in the
Mature Audiences section of the site.
------------------------------------------------------------------

I wonder if this individual is too young to know that movies didn't have ratings in the '40s-'50s. Evidently, we have to watch movies we list to gauge how pornographic they are (haven't owned a super 8 projector for a long time). So eBay trusts the judgment of its sellers to determine the degree of pornography involved (one man's porn is another man's PG-13)? Do we also have to read sleazy books for the same reason? Well, it's their site -- they make the rules.

The issue is moot now. I relisted it in MA, and it's got a bid. But as far as I can determine, even though the listing shows on my list of auctions, no MA listings come up in regular search results, even if you use exact words from titles. You have to navigate to the MA category and search from there.

Sue



tictictic_OnEbay
(enthusiast)
01/13/08 02:38 PM
Re: Mature Audiences errors new [re: Ned]  

Ned sed: "the rules are undefined, murky, made up as they go along, matter of taste, capricious -- take your choice."

Definitely. You'd have to hire an attorney to get anyone's attention and actually challenge a ruling.

Sue




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